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    Have you tried changing the driver for the Fire Wire card? Normally it defaults to a Texas Instruments driver but you should be able to change it to a Microsoft OHCI driver. I've known this fix problems before.

    What version of Premiere have you got? If it's 6.0 there are two updates: v6.01 & v6.02. It might be worth trying those.

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    ive got exactly the same problems,

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    Hmmm?

    Oh right


    I am so sick and ******* tired of hardware and software companies who charge absurd prices for software and equipment that should be considered a business tool but somehow falls through the cracks when it comes to accountability.
    Half the ******** time I feel like I am playing with the Johnny In Home Nuclear Reactor Kit.
    New in toy stores for christmas.
    I will give a prime example of just how this is Horse **** and tons of it.
    I have an animation program it has one fault. once exported to AVI and reproduced to Mjpeg etc.
    the image can be anywhere from slightly to FU** not again screwed up.
    Production eats time and time is money.
    I recently spent considerable time downloading a trial version of the next generation of this product to see if the problem had been clarified (the story of obviously) guess what feature was seactivated in the trial download.
    Correct the AVI export feature.
    So there goes another three hours wasted.
    New technology HORSE **** !
    These companies should be held legally accountable for the problems they are causing.

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    WELL?

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    Yes, how did it turn out.

    And by the way, I do agree with the accountability issue you bring up.

    Only buy computer products from companies that have help lines CLOSE ENOUGH so that you can drive to site if you had to. If a company cannot offer "support" near you, then don't buy their product and tell them WHY you are not buying their product.

    I don't quite see the advantage of having a company's computer techies all in one room to serve the public. Why not disperse them to parts unknown so that they are closer to the public?

    Unless they only have one or two people to serve the whole country. [img]confused.gif[/img]

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    The problem is xp messes up my firewire card. I cant take xp off, cause Ive too much important stuff on my laptop, so-game over.

    I tried capturing on to a pc with prem and win 98...but playback is all over the place and nothing I do (downloads, patches) make the slightest bit of differance. I hate prem, and I hate microsoft and am, at this stage (after spending a lot on firewire cards) a very dissilusioned young man.

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    very weird, since XP supports firewire 'out of the box', allegedly

    do you know if your firewire card is 'OHCI compliant' ... most new ones are, but older ones are still on the shelves. the benefit of 'OHCI' is that they are hassle free, as opposed to non-OHCI which i think needed proprietry drivers. they should specificly mention that they are OHCI in the manufacturer's description.

    i am rebuilding a PC with XP/firewire and so far my tests in Premiere 6.0+patches and Vegas Video 3.0C are very positive (apart from the fact that 12 minutes of video eats 3GB of drive space which is horrendous when you're used to MPEG2 I-frame compression ;-)

    I really don't know what to suggest that would ease your pain or not cost a small fortune.

    fortunately warez if rife on the PC scene so I'd probably start by d/l a copy of Premiere 6.5 and loading my project into that.

    although you should probably also try this as a diagnostic:

    forget premiere for the moment, and open a DV clip from the hard-drive with mediaplayer. does this output via the firewire cable to your DV recording device?

    you do have a record enabled DV device, right?

    to save on taxes a lot of older DV devices (read camcorders) in the UK were firewire-in disabled. this was so they would not be classified as VCRs with HM tax that goes with it.

    there are so many parameters here, you need to start with really simple stuff.

    does XP recognise when you have plugged the camcorder in? i get a little notification in the taskbar. my edit box runs XP+SP1+DX9

    small wonder you prefer film ;-)

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by miker:

    i am rebuilding a PC with XP/firewire and so far my tests in Premiere 6.0+patches and Vegas Video 3.0C are very positive (apart from the fact that 12 minutes of video eats 3GB of drive space which is horrendous when you're used to MPEG2 I-frame compression ;-)
    </font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Over the years I've tried to keep tabs on how many minutes per gig one gets in the high resolution mode.

    I came up with 5 minutes per gigbyte (sometimes a tad more, 6-7 minutes), you aren't too far off.

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    I just think back to the blissful days of macs and final cut. yum.

    Right, well my dv device is a canon xm2 which has dv in/out. XP does pick up the camcorder alright and capture is relatively fine (the odd dropped frame apart.)

    I dont know if its OCHI compliant, I'll check.

    The clips play back fine in win media player on the pc and laptop.

    My pc exports but dodgily because premiere has ultra fast playback of my edit.

    My laptop playsback is fine but does not export at all.

    Diddums. I'll never be able to post any of my work. Its a conspiracy I tells ya.,

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    once playback in mediaplayer exports down the firewire then it should work in premiere also (premiere just uses the DirectX filter layer, or API to use another TLA) -- certainly on my system I get DV output simultaneously with playback in mediaplayer.

    the fact that XP registers your camcorder is even more confounding ... it sounds like everything is setup correctly.

    may possibly be worth an upgrade to DirectX 9.0 (it's running okay on my system) unless you're a 56k'er
    get it here (~32MB):
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

    you could always export the project in realplayer format and post it on the web for us to see anyway ;-)

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